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Ubuntu pro osobní počítače => Hardware => Téma založeno: dredata_zizalka 01 Června 2018, 11:52:59
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Dobrý den,
už je to nějaký pátek, co jsem si nechávala známým sestavovat počítač. Bohužel moje nároky se trochu zvedly a co si budeme povídat, internetové stránky jsou taky čím dál náročnější.
Našla by se dobrá duše (nebo i více duší, co si spolu vymění názory :-) ), která by mi pomohla posoudit současný stroj a navrhnout úpravy?
Upřednostňuji jen výměnu komponent, ale vím, že tu jsou jisté provázanosti a někdy výměna komponent nemá smysl (třeba, že Motherboard by to stejně nestíhal apod..). - jenže jim podrobně nerozumím a proto se obracím na zkušenější ::)
A můj současný problém? Používám aktuálně Mint s Cinnamon 64bit a často teď skypuju.
Mám HD kameru, takže se snaží přenášet kvalitní obraz, ale počítač se občas uprostřed hovoru rozběhne jak o závod - přestože jen mluvíme a někdy se přerušuje spojení úplně. Vypínám při skypu prohlížeč.
Potřebovala bych, aby se počítač tolik nevztekal a já mohla v klidu třeba sdílet i obrazovku.
Tu je výpis, který má asi tak kilometr ;D:
zizalka@zizalka-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M ~ $ sudo lshw
[sudo] password for zizalka:
zizalka-to-be-filled-by-o-e-m
description: Desktop Computer
product: To be filled by O.E.M. (To be filled by O.E.M.)
vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
version: To be filled by O.E.M.
serial: To be filled by O.E.M.
width: 64 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.7 dmi-2.7 vsyscall32
configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop family=To be filled by O.E.M. sku=To be filled by O.E.M. uuid=00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: F2A75M-HD2
vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
version: x.x
serial: To be filled by O.E.M.
slot: To be filled by O.E.M.
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
physical id: 0
version: F2
date: 10/12/2012
size: 64KiB
capacity: 4032KiB
capabilities: pci upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification uefi
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 23
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 8GiB
*-bank:0
description: DIMM [empty]
product: Dimm0_PartNum
vendor: Dimm0_Manufacturer
physical id: 0
serial: Dimm0_SerNum
slot: Node0_Dimm0
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)
product: KHX1866C9D3/4
vendor: Kingston
physical id: 1
serial: C93E0402
slot: Node0_Dimm1
size: 4GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 667MHz (1.5ns)
*-bank:2
description: DIMM [empty]
product: Dimm2_PartNum
vendor: Dimm2_Manufacturer
physical id: 2
serial: Dimm2_SerNum
slot: Node0_Dimm2
*-bank:3
description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)
product: KHX1866C9D3/4
vendor: Kingston
physical id: 3
serial: CF3E4D02
slot: Node0_Dimm3
size: 4GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 667MHz (1.5ns)
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 2f
slot: L1 CACHE
size: 96KiB
capacity: 96KiB
clock: 1GHz (1.0ns)
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal write-back unified
configuration: level=1
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 30
slot: L2 CACHE
size: 1MiB
capacity: 1MiB
clock: 1GHz (1.0ns)
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal write-back unified
configuration: level=2
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: AMD A4-5300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 39
bus info: cpu@0
version: AMD A4-5300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
slot: P0
size: 2003MHz
capacity: 3400MHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 100MHz
capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave avx f16c lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs xop skinit wdt lwp fma4 tce nodeid_msr tbm topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb cpb hw_pstate retpoline retpoline_amd rsb_ctxsw ssbd amd_ssbd vmmcall bmi1 arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold cpufreq
configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=2
*-pci:0
description: Host bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Complex
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
*-generic UNCLAIMED
description: IOMMU
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) I/O Memory Management Unit
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 0.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: msi ht bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Trinity [Radeon HD 7480D]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
resources: irq:37 memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:f000(size=256) memory:fef00000-fef3ffff memory:c0000-dffff
*-multimedia:0
description: Audio device
product: Trinity HDMI Audio Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 1.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
resources: irq:38 memory:fef44000-fef47fff
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:25 ioport:e000(size=4096) ioport:d0000000(size=1048576)
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
logical name: enp1s0
version: 06
serial: 94:de:80:02:5c:d4
size: 100Mbit/s
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full firmware=rtl8168e-3_0.0.4 03/27/12 ip=192.168.1.100 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
resources: irq:32 ioport:e000(size=256) memory:d0004000-d0004fff memory:d0000000-d0003fff
*-usb:0
description: USB controller
product: FCH USB XHCI Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 10
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.0
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi msix pciexpress xhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:18 memory:fef4a000-fef4bfff
*-usbhost:0
product: xHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic xhci-hcd
physical id: 0
bus info: usb@6
logical name: usb6
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
*-usbhost:1
product: xHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic xhci-hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@7
logical name: usb7
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-3.00
configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
*-usb:1
description: USB controller
product: FCH USB XHCI Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 10.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:10.1
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi msix pciexpress xhci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
resources: irq:17 memory:fef48000-fef49fff
*-usbhost:0
product: xHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic xhci-hcd
physical id: 0
bus info: usb@8
logical name: usb8
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
*-usbhost:1
product: xHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic xhci-hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@9
logical name: usb9
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-3.00
configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
*-storage
description: SATA controller
product: FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 11
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
version: 40
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: storage msi ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ahci latency=32
resources: irq:33 ioport:f190(size=8) ioport:f180(size=4) ioport:f170(size=8) ioport:f160(size=4) ioport:f150(size=16) memory:fef51000-fef517ff
*-usb:2
description: USB controller
product: FCH USB OHCI Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 12
bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
resources: irq:18 memory:fef50000-fef50fff
*-usbhost
product: OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@3
logical name: usb3
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: driver=hub slots=5 speed=12Mbit/s
*-usb:3
description: USB controller
product: FCH USB EHCI Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 12.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:12.2
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=32
resources: irq:17 memory:fef4f000-fef4f0ff
*-usbhost
product: EHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic ehci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@1
logical name: usb1
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=hub slots=5 speed=480Mbit/s
*-usb:4
description: USB controller
product: FCH USB OHCI Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 13
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
resources: irq:18 memory:fef4e000-fef4efff
*-usbhost
product: OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@4
logical name: usb4
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: driver=hub slots=5 speed=12Mbit/s
*-usb:0
description: Keyboard
product: Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000
vendor: Microsoft
physical id: 4
bus info: usb@4:4
version: 1.70
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=1Mbit/s
*-usb:1
description: Mouse
product: USB Optical Mouse
vendor: Logitech
physical id: 5
bus info: usb@4:5
version: 72.00
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=1Mbit/s
*-usb:5
description: USB controller
product: FCH USB EHCI Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 13.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.2
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=32
resources: irq:17 memory:fef4d000-fef4d0ff
*-usbhost
product: EHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic ehci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@2
logical name: usb2
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: driver=hub slots=5 speed=480Mbit/s
*-serial
description: SMBus
product: FCH SMBus Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 14
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
version: 14
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: driver=piix4_smbus latency=0
resources: irq:0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: FCH IDE Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 14.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master
configuration: driver=pata_atiixp latency=32
resources: irq:17 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:f100(size=16)
*-multimedia:1
description: Audio device
product: FCH Azalia Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 14.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
version: 01
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
resources: irq:16 memory:fef40000-fef43fff
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: FCH LPC Bridge
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: FCH PCI Bridge
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 14.4
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.4
version: 40
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master vga_palette
*-usb:6
description: USB controller
product: FCH USB OHCI Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 14.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.5
version: 11
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
resources: irq:18 memory:fef4c000-fef4cfff
*-usbhost
product: OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: Linux 4.13.0-43-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@5
logical name: usb5
version: 4.13
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
*-pci:1
description: Host bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 0
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 101
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:2
description: Host bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 1
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 102
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:3
description: Host bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 2
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 103
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:4
description: Host bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 3
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 104
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=k10temp
resources: irq:0
*-pci:5
description: Host bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 4
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 105
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.4
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:6
description: Host bridge
product: Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 5
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 106
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.5
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-scsi:0
physical id: 1
logical name: scsi2
capabilities: emulated
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: KINGSTON SVP200S
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: BBF0
serial: 50026B7228021E07
size: 55GiB (60GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=dccda454
*-volume:0
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
logical name: /
version: 1.0
serial: 581643fd-e1a6-418c-aa90-898578414c91
size: 48GiB
capacity: 48GiB
capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2017-12-16 18:28:27 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/ modified=2018-06-01 06:22:49 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered mounted=2018-05-31 14:51:54 state=mounted
*-volume:1
description: Extended partition
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,2
logical name: /dev/sda2
size: 7642MiB
capacity: 7642MiB
capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
*-logicalvolume
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 5
logical name: /dev/sda5
capacity: 7642MiB
capabilities: nofs
*-scsi:1
physical id: 2
logical name: scsi3
capabilities: emulated
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: SAMSUNG HD154UI
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sdb
version: 1118
serial: S1Y6J9BSB01077
size: 1397GiB (1500GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=eae9e8e7
*-volume
description: EXT4 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@3:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sdb1
logical name: /media/zizalka/sdb1
version: 1.0
serial: 77dc9866-bb2c-47c9-86d3-e3dfada14942
size: 1397GiB
capacity: 1397GiB
capabilities: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2012-09-25 20:00:35 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/media/zizalka/sdb1 modified=2018-06-01 06:22:51 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,stripe=32751,data=ordered mounted=2018-06-01 06:22:51 state=mounted
*-scsi:2
physical id: 3
logical name: scsi4
capabilities: emulated
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
product: DRW-24B5ST
vendor: ASUS
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/cdrw
logical name: /dev/dvd
logical name: /dev/dvdrw
logical name: /dev/sr0
version: 1.00
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
děkuji!
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Tenhle PC si myslim, ze plne dostacuje temto potrebam. Problem bude spise v zabugovanem Cinnamonu, ktery ma mizernou spravu RAM a nepsala jsi jaka verze Mintu to je. Pouzivas-li verzi 18.x tak ta trpi neduhy Ubu 16.xx a dohromady to je vrazedna kombinace. Tez Firefox neni uplne odladeny co se tyce spotreby - momentalne ma snad nejhorsi vysledky.
Vzdy samozrejme muzes rozsirit RAM a take je dobre mit dostatecnou velikost swap oddilu. Dalsi vec je pouziti svobodnych ci proprietalnich driveru na grafiku.
Pro zacatek bych navrhl jine prostredi. Mate nebo XFCE by bylo vhodne. V pripade, ze pouzivas vyse zminenou verzi, muzes zkusit starsi odladenou Mint 17.3 ci Xubuntu 14.04 ci Ubuntu Mate. Jde-li Ti o podporu, pak je moznost zkusit MX 17.1 - tento OS je tez staveny na Debianu a je dobre odladen.
CPU take muzes dat silnejsi take vzdycky, dle podpory chipsetu. No a SSD je vzdy prinos, nebor HDD je nejpomalejsi clanek v retezci. Takze tot obecne, nez jeste neco treba doplnis ohledne dalsich nedostatku a pozadavku.
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Nevím jak procesor, ale ostatní hw by měl stačit. Zaměřil bych se na grafické ovladače. Nebo zkus si půjčit jakoukoliv soudobou nVidia grafiku, nainstalit proprietalni ovladače. Dle mě zásadní věc...
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Jůů děkuji!
Že by to bylo softwarové je dost možné, protože před tím jsem měla OpenSuse a tam šlo všechno OK.
Jenže poslední (tehdy) aktualizace se mi hodně příčila.
Tak faktem je, že grafiku jsem začala používat interní kvůli tomu, že jsem se snažila zbavit zbytečných 'větráčků' a pak když už jsem měla v ruce s pasivním chlazením, tak mi někdo řekl, že ta grafika co je na desce úplně v pohodě.
Mint mám 18.3. Instalovat něco jiného by mi asi ani tolik nevadilo, už jsem vyzkoušela kde co, vždycky když se to začne 'kazit', tak jdu jinam 8).
Podstatné pro mě je, aby to bylo Gnome prostředí (ne unity, ani kde).
Dokázali byste mi prosím zjednodušeně porovnat zmíněná prostředí? V čem jsou třeba chudší, než Gnone/Cinnamon?
Vypadají stejně, takže v čem je vlastně ten rozdíl?
Xfc
Mate
Pro mě by asi tedy bylo lepší xfc, ale já ho mám zažité jako systém pro stará PC, tak si ho představuji skoro černobíle :-), ale když bych na to chtěla jít cestou nejmenšího odporu, tak stačí jen doinstalovat balík že?
Teď to zkouším a na xfc mi rovnou nefunguje touchpad (testuji na ntb) :-) tedy poklepání, musím ho stisknout. :-)
V matu mi zase nefungují 'tlačítka' toupadu ..
Mate na desktopu se rozhučí jakmile se mi otevře víc panelů v Chromiu :-( čím to čím to?
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Tak Mate i Cinnamon vychazeji z Gnome. Xfce je spise efektivnejsi prostredi a proto je vhodne i pro starsi PC - neni to tak ze je nemoderni a uz vubec ne ochuzene a cernobile. Mozna nema takove graficke efekty jako KDE, ale je plnohodnotne a z meho pohledu hodne ergonomicke. Ma barvy, pruhlednost a plne spolupracuje s compizem, takze efektu grafickych muzes mit hafo. Bohuzel posledni dobou jsou systemy postavene na Ubuntu cimdalvic zabugovanejsi a mene odladenejsi ...
Doinstalovavat ruzna prostredi se hodi tak na zkousku pro porovnani a testovani, ale optimalni to rozhodne neni. Rozhodne vzdy cisty pokus live a cista instalace.